who oversees the work of our field staff. there has been historic ambiguity about who is responsible here in the city for pedestrian lighting. we have some pedestrian-scale lighting, so does recreation and parks. the city code provides that the public utilities commission will determine the intensity of elimination, number, and size of lighting. the puc has been deemed to have responsibility.

the ambiguity around pedestrian lighting has come to ahead for us. pedestrian lighting is expected to increase in the coming years as more attention is paid to the streetscape. with the treatment by dpw, the definition of streets also bears on responsibility for pedestrians lighting. sometimes pictures help. here is a photo that shows rincon hill area. you can see a street light and to the left, a pedestrian light.

this is an example of pedestrian lighting that was installed by the developer for and improve to the area. -- and then prove to the area. this is another light that is pedestrian scale. you can see the top of the light. this is a redevelopment- sponsored project. then we will have the lighting that gives you an example of the pedestrian scale lighting we are talking about. many of these projects are proposed by developers working

with the city. the better street plan adoption means that any doctor who will rebuild a block or a number of blocks will be obligated to install pedestrian lighting. once the plan is in place to install it, who reviews the plan. who expects the work after it has installed. under the proposed pedestrian policy you have, we are suggesting that for whites that are located along the street as is currently defined by the public's works code, when it is poll-mounted, when they have

been selected from a pre- determined portfolio of fixtures, when they have been installed to meet the standards for conduit boxes that we have, when the plans and designs have been reviewed and approved by us and inspected and approved in the field after they have been installed, they would take responsibility for ongoing maintenance if this is adopted. we would only assume responsibility for whites -- lights that have 40 been installed. when they are poll-mounted, when the current into t provides us

with specifications as to where they are located, a condition assessment, the manufacturers catalog number for the fixtures, we know what it is they're asking us to take on. we would have information adequate to consider assuming responsibility for those as well. this would not be guaranteed an opportunity to consider. we recognize that this policy would place a financial burden on us to operate and maintain them appropriately. if the city decides to make street improvements and not a separate developer, to than have the capacity to put in the pedestrian lighting and necessary conduits. to give you a sense of what that could cost, we look at a hypothetical street, 5 miles.

if there was a major street like mission that the city decided that there is lighting installed, but there is a cost and assessment for you included in your packet. this would run about 16.8 million, both sides of the street. for the conduit and boxes, another 2.4 million bringing the total estimate up to 19 million.

historically, the city has taken upon itself to install about 33 lights a year. perhaps a more realistic sense of what it would cost is shown on this chart. we're 37 lights are installed with conduits, it would cost us about 550,000. over 20 years, 37 lights a year, that gets us up to 12.9 million. if you would assume, some and not a pedestrian lighting funded by the city as opposed to buy developer, you have to remember that a financial burden would be the operations and maintenance

of those lights that are handed over to us said that we install. if we have a right up of what it would cost. $93 a light if this is a standard light, $39 if this is a highly efficient light. a total over 20 years shown their which is substantially less when it is an alley the light. -- when it is an led light. two of the examples i showed you have pedestrian writing styles are lights that were installed

that have not been turned by the developers. this is part of the reason that gets us to the podium today is that the developers are trying to hand the street lights off and the redevelopment agency is trying to hand the pedestrian writing off. they're asking us to assume responsibility for those. there are other projects in developing queue.

the department of public works is looking to us to become the owner. i'm happy to take any questions. >> why do they cost more than lead to maintain --led to maintain? >> standard lights consume more electricity, they burn out at a faster rate. this requires us to send a crew out and take the lead out and change it. all of the labor cost is built into the laborers -- into numbers you have seen. >> why are we doing this?

>> if you think that we should be responsible for the lights, we will include requirements for them to be a fixture is available in the marketplace. >> before us today is really policy? >> this is a policy for pedestrian writing which is newly installed >> i am assuming that developers are the ones installing the lights. >> typically that is true. it does taken upon itself to improve the streets, separate and apart from what the developers are doing.

the project will provoke a better streets. this will present an issue of what about pedestrian lighting. >> the budget we had was for street lights and not for production. >> it seems to me that these lights are not necessary. they just make a st. look better. we are looking at that and the times we are in right now. >> my first reaction was why should we take this on.

the first time it came out to me was during the jazz festival. these were installed by the redevelopment agency. whether they exist or not, they're going out of business. the people that are there are planning on maintaining them. we have lights on our streets that will simply go out. the charter has said that we have these utilities and street lights. people are looking to us saying, you have to take these lights on. no, there are no other entities in the city that have the capacity to do it. one option would be to say you can have pedestrian lighting in the city and see if we can make that point. absent that, we probably will --

make sure they are the right lights. these are guys that can be a corporate so that people can get this responsibility. i really did ask if we could just say no. so far, i have not gotten a good answer as to what happens to lights that are already out there and existing. we also have a major policy in the city to do the implementation and you will not have the developers doing this. it is the city putting in different sidewalks, trees, everything, and they will want to put in pedestrian lighting. that is a quandary we are in. >> would we be able to say that we wanted this on the stretch as xanax? we don't have it in our budget

or capacity? >> at the better streets plan was adopted by the board in the fall. >> i think as we go into the design, we would have to say that that money will not be available so we don't have it available, that is the judgment of the commission. i would assume that the neighbors on the street, members of the board of supervisors, they want their streets to be a beautiful street. >> i don't see in the resolution any mention of led >> i have an amendment that i would like to introduce.

the amendment would be a number seven that would say to the extent that the san francisco public utilities commission must identify and procurer the most energy-efficient product available and will explore the efficacy of charged lighting as the technology becomes available. >> in many cases, we would not be the ones procuring. >> how is that specify if someone gets a standard? that is a standard light? then what do we do? >> under this proposal, we would be on the ground floor at the planning and design phase and they would have to come to us and say this is what we want to install. we would then be able to say, no, you're not allowed to install it because it does not

meet the efficiency specifications that we have. we would have the authority with this policy adoption that we don't have today. >> to develop and apply the standards. >> so, would you come back to us with a set of standards as the next that after this policy? >> we could. we already have under development and are planning to bring to you the street lights portfolio and will incorporate into the pedestrian lighting. we are planning on having that complete by the end of this year. we presented to you over a year ago and that project has been under way since we have incorporated the pedestrian lighting into it. we would be able to specify the type of polls and fixtures. we have a portfolio so someone

could not say, i want to do this one unique-looking poll. we would have those controls in place. we would bring this back to you for consideration. >> i think it makes sense us to go ahead on this. >> in the counter item, you talk about the operating costs that would go to 303,000. that sounds smaller than the numbers we're talking about. >> that was on the slide that i showed you.

>> my resumption is that it pay the capital cost. >> in some instances we would, we would look to provide that capital cost. that this would be a city requirement to have pedestrian writing and the developer would be responsible for that cost. the city requires them to provide 10% of the installed polls and fixtures available to us. that is all at the beginning of the capital project. sponsored by a third party, not the city, that would come to us as part of that. this of reborn by the project

developer. this includes having some inventory and stock. >> >> i am not sure if this is a good thing or bad thing but there is very little money for the rest of the program to deal with. >> all the more reason. >> most street improvements, the sidewalks and amenities are paid for either by the developer or by the department of public works and the become teachers diction's for them to maintain this. a lot of the pedestrian lights we are talking about are not our obligation and their basically owned by the department of public works.

>> i am not sure. i think that the document that you were given with the package, we're just looking for it says who has what. >> this is another area where someone is trying to figure this out. it environment where we show a financial plan that does not balance and we are talking about taking on a variety of obligations. this is yet another one and this is at the same time that we're

subsidizing the municipal power rights. it seems to be that there is something not being considered here. we are not a bottomless pits. there is a limit to what we can do. pedestrian lighting and having must take charge means we don't have to deal with people not doing their job but there is a cost and i'm concerned about it. this is a resource that we know is insufficient. >> if we postpone this item for a month to see what happens with the better streets planning and the economy and what not. i see the pedestrian my

question. does that mean that nothing can take care of those lights? >> that's right. there is no clarity on who gets called and to take the truck out there to fix it. >> in the case of the district, yes. there presently owned by the developer who improved the area. >> we would try to insist that they continue to maintain them. you would not let the lights go out. these are actually street lights. they have not been accepted by the city. outages are happening. these are not our lights. they have not been inspected by the city. it kind of goes into limbo. at some point, it becomes a

safety and security issue. >> there are special improvements. >> this lighting is ours. there was always be ambiguity. we understand your problem but this is not ours. we're not sure whose responsibility it is. >> perhaps to move this along,

and we are hoping that they will maintain responsibilities from these areas. we will revisit this in three- six months. >> we can revisit this. there are problem lights, they need repair. we have insane for two years, not our problem. the other part is the better

streets, not a developer, not someone coming in, this is really the city changing the look of the city. you are right, they're looking for money to be able to do that and we can come back with a suggestion. we come come back with the use of pedestrian writing and we can continue this while you think about that. no one else is going to listen to most of these lights. >> the way that i would like to frame the discussion is that there are many things that there is a desire to do. we have a source of funding

which is considerable to those kind of issues. this is not an infinite supply. there should be discussions about how this is most important to us. we have a variety of programs. how does this back up compared to those? that is a discussion that we should have. at this time, i don't see how this compares with the programs that we have already committed ourselves for. my recommendation would be that we not act on it at this time. we don't have the resources to do with it. we're willing to get into a discussion about priorities for the use of the resources. >> are there further comments?

>> i just think that we have to take into account the historical nature of this district. >> that was one other option, can we take on this piece? i don't think this approach is ideal but there is a problem already. this seems to be a very specific piece, maybe our meeting, you could come back to us with what that would look like because of the historic nature. i to have that. >> you are talking about the film more jazz district? >> they are not even a fixture that we would have. >> right. >> if that comes back, part of that discussion should be

whether a special assessment is a reasonable alternative for that. >> part of what we're trying to corral is all of these different concept and there is a unique idea about the look and feel of the street. now, will you take it. there is a big burden on having adequate land to put all those inventory and when a poll gets knocked down and needs to be repaired, you have in stock.